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Just Say G'day people!!!!

I decided to ditch the trails yesterday in exchange for a decent ride on the bike paths from Redcliffe to Brisbane. After busting my pump, meaning I couldn't inflate my roadie tire, I had to take the MTB instead.

On my bike path ride I took in Sandgate, back behind the Ent Cent and out toward Nudgee beach before heading down Kedron Brook to Brisbane.

I am so dissapointed that for the huge number of riders that I passed a large percentage could not be bothered to return a 'Good morning'. I understand some people might be on 'training rides' or'in the zone' but come on... honestly is it that hard to say hello.

I don't want to stereotype one particular group on this issue, but I just wanted to say, if we want to encourage more people to ride bikes, the social aspect is one that I personally find quite important.

If you are out there, on the road, on the trails, on a roadie or an MTB, just say G'day!!!!

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I know exactly what you mean.

On the trails most people return a hello or good morning and are gernerally nice and friendly.
As a MTBer doing my first few road traingng rides along bike path i was very dissappointed by the lack of response i would get back from a friendly smile and hello.

Not to sterotype but my Observation is the roadie world is compeltely diferent to what we are used to on the trails.
Either way i still say hello and give a nod to every rider i see, road or out on the trails.

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ive always been saying gday To People i pass

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I often do 300-500km a week and pass quite probably several hundred riders, why on earth would I want to say hi to every single person that I come across? Ill say hi to the people that I know, that I race with or that are in my club kit, but Id get RSI if I aknowledged every single rider I came across. I go riding to chill out, not to talk to people, which is the same for most riders.

I know for some riders it might be all new and exciting, but simply because someone is riding a bike isnt enough of a reason to interact with and after you've done it for a few months you too wont feel the compulsion to talk to everyone.

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I'm always torn by this. Whilst innately I like to recognise other cyclists this is done either by nod of head, raise of hand, smile, hello or what have you there are times when I just don't. If large groups go past I'll normally nod to the group in general unless they appear to be a casual group then I might say hello. If i'm heading in their direction I'll normally interact with them. If I'm battling a headwind or struggling I generally don't. As a general rule the less cyclists I see the more likely I am to say or do something friendly. Say crossing the goodwill bridge in peak hour I generally don't do anything but if I'm crusing around and haven't seen a bike for a little while I will. If someone recognises me I'll always smile/raise my hand/nod/say hello unless I missed it.

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Ill say hi to the people that I know, but and after you've done it for a few months you too wont feel the compulsion to talk.

Have to agree there NR. If I was to see you out on the road I probably couldn't even bother giving you the finger flipa let alone raise an eyebrow or a hand. People who are too friendly give me the creeps.

It's the same when driving. Some tools driving the same vehicle seem to think we are special & give the secret "A" Team nod & finger tilt. Well I say F#ck off you di*kwad I hate my sh#t box car & you're a fool for buying the same one.

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I often do 300-500km a week and pass quite probably several hundred riders, why on earth would I want to say hi to every single person that I come across? Ill say hi to the people that I know, that I race with or that are in my club kit, but Id get RSI if I aknowledged every single rider I came across. I go riding to chill out, not to talk to people, which is the same for most riders.

I know for some riders it might be all new and exciting, but simply because someone is riding a bike isnt enough of a reason to interact with and after you've done it for a few months you too wont feel the compulsion to talk to everyone.

I tend to give a grunt to people on the trails.

On the road I generally couldn't be bothered unless I haven't seen someone for ages. Occassionaly I might have a chat at the lights re: the humidity or something. I'm also doing 2-300 a week and there are just to many people on the commute - especially as you get close into the city.

It's a bit like I don't say hello to every person I walk past in the city - but if I was out hiking in the bush I would probably acknowledge anyone I might walk past.

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Ill say hi to the people that I know, but and after you've done it for a few months you too wont feel the compulsion to talk.

Have to agree there NR. If I was to see you out on the road I probably couldn't even bother giving you the finger flipa let alone raise an eyebrow or a hand. People who are too friendly give me the creeps.

It's the same when driving. Some tools driving the same vehicle seem to think we are special & give the secret "A" Team nod & finger tilt. Well I say F#ck off you di*kwad I hate my sh#t box car & you're a fool for buying the same one.

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Maybe they are just weirded out by a pom using the word 'g'day'?

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I don't talk on the bike paths, usually too disgruntled that I don't have dirt under my tyres.

Dirt = fun, tar = purpose.

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Ill say hi to the people that I know, but and after you've done it for a few months you too wont feel the compulsion to talk.

Have to agree there NR. If I was to see you out on the road I probably couldn't even bother giving you the finger flipa let alone raise an eyebrow or a hand. People who are too friendly give me the creeps.

It's the same when driving. Some tools driving the same vehicle seem to think we are special & give the secret "A" Team nod & finger tilt. Well I say F#ck off you di*kwad I hate my sh#t box car & you're a fool for buying the same one.

OMG! I just spat coffee all over my screen.. Hilarious!

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Quote: Nightrider

... why on earth would I want to say hi to every single person that I come across?

In this world where there is a lot of aggression, arrogance, rage, unfriendliness, bad attitude, couldn't give a *** about anyone else, I've always found it easy to say g'day or smile or wave to most people I pass on bikepaths and in the bush - riders, runners, walkers, roller bladers, whoever ... and many respond. I know it's a good thing to do and I know that in a small way it makes the world a better place. More people, not only bike riders, should try it.

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Yer I ride through Gap Ck all the time and "very very rarely" will anyone else acknowledge my GIDDAY so do I be rude like them and just don't do it??? naaaaa im not like that....I like to say gday to people while im out riding and if they look at me and snob me then they cop a serve....so if your out riding and happen to hear or see some phsyco little dude going postal that will probably be me...its how i roll flipa ha ha ha ha ha Smile

and Zep thats gold but I will chase you down and do a cutty right in front of you...Cop that

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http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/09/its-all-in-details-greetings-and.html

It's All in the Details: Greetings and Salutations


Cycling is a community in the sense that a big city like New York is a community. It’s a patchwork of very different groups of people who share only one thing in common, whose regard for each-other lies somewhere between indifference and disdain, and who acknowledge or help each-other only in times of emergency. Nonetheless, like any community, cycling has its own modes of social discourse. As such, it’s important to understand the niceties and not-so-niceties that cyclists engage in on a daily basis. The slightest gesture--and even the complete absense of a gesture--can speak volumes. And nowhere is this more apparent than in the way cyclists greet each-other.

Waving

Generally speaking, waving at other cyclists is optional. However, if you’re going to wave, there are certain times when it is appropriate, and other times when it is inappropriate. This also varies from discipline to discipline, and from circumstance to circumstance.

On the Road

If you’re going to wave on a road ride, remember that like waves at like. While it’s perfectly fine to wave at every bicycle you see, frankly, it’s a little strange—it’s like a puppy who joyously greets and slobbers on every person it meets, even the guy robbing its house. Instead, try waving at people who are riding in a manner similar to your own. If you’re out on your touring bike with a couple panniers full of granola and dry underwear, wave at other touring bikes. If you’re out on your road bike doing your best impression of a Euro pro, wave at other Euro faux-pros. And so forth. Remember—waving is like doing intervals. You can only do so many on a ride before you get depleted.

How To Wave On The Road

You’re on a bike, not a boat. So don’t go raising your hands above your head like you’re back from a week at sea and your family’s greeting you at the dock. Here are the three types of acceptable waves, in descending order of friendliness:

1) Hand removed from the bar, fingers extended;
2) Hand still holding the bar, fingers lifted briefly off the bar or brake hood.
3) The barely perceptible nod.

When Waving is Gratuitous or Inappropriate (for road riding and touring)

1) In the City

The onus to wave increases proportionately with your distance from an urban center. The further afield you are, the more warranted a wave is.

2) On a Climb

If you’re passing someone on a climb, refrain from waving, or at most just do a finger-lift. Giving a hearty wave—or, worse yet, engaging someone in conversation—on a climb can be insulting if the person is suffering much worse than you are. It’s like fanning yourself with hundred-dollar bills in front of a soup kitchen.

3) If You or Someone Else is Doing Something Stupid*

Recently I was riding in a bike lane and I encountered a cyclist coming at me head-on in the wrong direction. As we approached, he had the nerve to give a friendly nod. I do not encourage this kind of riding, but if you absolutely must do something like that due to extenuating circumstances, do not have the audacity to wave or nod to someone riding properly. Instead, hang your head in shame or make some vague gesture in an attempt to indicate you couldn’t help yourself. And if you’re the one in the right, do not greet or return a greeting from one of these riders. They are, for that moment, cycling pariahs.

*(You may also choose to show disapproval for someone’s appearance or equipment choice by withholding a greeting you might otherwise have proffered, or by failing to return one. This is known as the "passive insult." While petty and immature, it is nonetheless acceptable as your intent cannot be proven.)

Off-Road Greetings

Greeting fellow cyclists off-road is different than greeting them on pavement. Firstly, you’re not seeing them coming from miles away—you’re encountering them in close quarters and on terrain that may make it difficult or impractical for you to remove your hands from the bars. Secondly, the fact that you're not on the road and are instead in the wild means that you must be more forthcoming. It's a man-versus-nature scenario, so like a platoon in the jungle, you never know when you may need to band together in order to survive. You can't afford to go snubbing people.

The common mode of greeting off-road is to offer a verbal salutation, followed by information about how many riders are behind you. Even if the rider's appearance, bicycle, or lack of technical skill offends you, greet him or her anyway. As above, you may need him later if, say, you're attacked by a leopard or cheetah, or if you need to fashion some kind of crude booby-trap from his rear suspension in order to stall an attacking army.

In addition to this, it should be obvious that on a narrow trail you should yield the right-of-way to riders who are climbing. They need to keep momentum in order to continue, and if you force them to stop they may need to push their bikes to the top of the climb. And being forced to push your bike up a climb you otherwise would have cleared is like a combination of coitus interruptus and having to ride your beater bike because your friend borrowed your good bike and crashed it.

And while you generally shouldn't snub in the woods, you should still withhold a greeting if someone is doing something stupid, like riding the wrong way on a uni-directional trail. Additionally, you should let them know their mistake, or at least play chicken with them and force them off of it.

Commuting Greeting and Interaction

Unlike road riding, where urban greetings are unnecessary and where snubbing those unlike you is allowed, you should be more omnivorous in your greetings when you’re commuting. Yet it’s slightly strange to wave at other commuters while you’re actually riding. You're all just going to work. Do you wave at people when you're on the subway, or on the bus? As such, a good rule of thumb is to greet other commuters only when you’re stopped together at a light. A nod or a simple verbal greeting is appropriate here. However, there are certain things you should never, ever do when greeting another cyclist in traffic:

1) Ask How Much His or Her Bike Weighs

This is the most annoying question you can ask a cyclist. It’s the “Do you come here often?” of bike questions. No matter how pretty and shiny the bike is, don’t ask it.

2) Ask How Much His or Her Bike Costs

It’s mostly non-cyclists who ask this question, but it’s still worth mentioning. This is not the kind of thing you ask a stranger. Firstly, it’s personal—kind of like asking a strange woman her bra size. Secondly, cyclists only like to talk about how much their bikes or components cost in certain circumstances and with certain people. (This usually involves things like rationalizing how their incredibly expensive headset was actually a bargain since it will outlast a cheaper headset by a factor of five.) Otherwise, asking cyclists how much their bikes cost is like asking alcoholics how many drinks they've had. It only makes them angry and defensive.

3) Do Not Touch Someone’s Bike

Again, this is mostly something non-cyclists do, but just in case you’re tempted—do not touch.
4) Do Not Comment On Someone's Lack of a Helmet
Yes, it's better to wear a helmet than to not wear a helmet. But the fact that you know this and are wearing one does not entitle you to point it out to others. If you find yourself compelled to make comments like this to people, do your best to suppress the urge and instead simply go home and resume work on the life-sized marble statue you're carving of yourself to celebrate your own brilliance.

The Golden Rule of Cycling

Of course, the Golden Rule of Cycling that transcends any circumstance or discipline is that if you pass a cyclist who is having mechanical trouble, you must always ask if he or she needs help. However, there's also a loophole to this rule. If you don't want to actually stop, simply ride too fast to hear the reply. Acceptable reasons to do this include:

--You need to be somewhere and don't have time, but you don't want to look bad;
--You're on your way back from a long ride and you're really hungry;
--They've got the bike flipped upside-down to work on it and that irritates you;
--They're riding a road bike but are wearing a Camelbak;
--They've got the audacity to be riding a $6,000 road bike without a toolkit.
--So there you have it. It's not pretty, but neither is cycling.--
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and Zep thats gold but I will chase you down and do a cutty right in front of you...

You know I was only joking, accept the bit about giving you the finger, not bothering to be friendly & ignoring tossers in the same car.

Good one OCG hihi I chose my favourites from the list .

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. You can only do so many on a ride before you get depleted.


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3) The barely perceptible nod.


The onus to wave increases proportionately with your distance from an urban center. The further can be insulting if the person is suffering much worse than you are. It’s like fanning yourself with hundred-dollar bills in front of a soup kitchen.


*(You may also choose to show disapproval for someone’s appearance or equipment choice by withholding a greeting you might otherwise have proffered, or by failing to return one. This is known as the "passive insult." While petty and immature, it is nonetheless acceptable as your intent cannot be proven.)

let them know their mistake, or at least play chicken with them and force them off of it.


if you pass a cyclist who is having mechanical trouble,
----They've got the bike flipped upside-down to work on it and that irritates you;
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Ill say hi to the people that I know, but and after you've done it for a few months you too wont feel the compulsion to talk.

Have to agree there NR. If I was to see you out on the road I probably couldn't even bother giving you the finger let alone raise an eyebrow or a hand. People who are too friendly give me the creeps.

It's the same when driving. Some tools driving the same vehicle seem to think we are special & give the secret "A" Team nod & finger tilt. Well I say F#ck off you di*kwad I hate my sh#t box car & you're a fool for buying the same one.

If I saw you driving (you never ride so no one sees you on a bike) I would give you the finger/abuse you alot but only because I dont like you at all. flipa

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Nice on OCG. Some funny points in there!

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I often do 300-500km a week and pass quite probably several hundred riders, why on earth would I want to say hi to every single person that I come across? Ill say hi to the people that I know, that I race with or that are in my club kit, but Id get RSI if I aknowledged every single rider I came across. I go riding to chill out, not to talk to people, which is the same for most riders.

I know for some riders it might be all new and exciting, but simply because someone is riding a bike isnt enough of a reason to interact with and after you've done it for a few months you too wont feel the compulsion to talk to everyone.

ive been riding for years and i'll always say g'day or give a smile.Life is so ***ed these days that

little things like saying hello can make a difference to someone.on the other side of the coin though its nice to tell people who ignore you that theyr'e stuck up rrrrzolesWavey

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and Zep thats gold but I will chase you down and do a cutty right in front of you...Cop that

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I'd do the same, but I'd look pretty stupid when I didn't catch you!!!!

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ha ha ha thats tops Carl...

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Great article about waving, helping people etc.

I had a chain slip off while doing the Greater Brisbane Bike ride in 2009. It took about 2 minutes to fix, while standing off to the side. I had about 10 people ask me if I needed assistance during that 2 minute period.

Agree completely about the off road greetings. Some of the trails can be pretty lonely, so human interaction is a must.

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